The Great Plains Laboratory has been educating practitioners for over 15 years on how to help patients heal through cutting-edge testing, research and protocols. In our recent 2-Day OAT + TOX Workshop, speakers extolled the virtues of comprehensive metabolic tests like the Organic Acids Test (OAT) and the MycoTOX Profile to help with difficult-to-diagnose patients.
The participants heard ways of how to implement these tests along with other diagnostic assessments, as well as effective treatment methods.
The following Q+A is a response to remaining questionsour participating speakers were unable to answer during their presentations.
The material contained within this article is not intended to replace the services and/or medical advice of a licensed healthcare practitioner, nor is it meant to encourage diagnosis and treatment of disease. It is for educational purposes only. Any application of suggestions set forth in the following portions of this article is at the reader's discretion and sole risk. Implementation or experimentation with any supplements, herbs, dietary changes, medications, and/or lifestyle changes, etc., is done so at your sole risk and responsibility.
Evan Brand
Mold, Mycotoxins, Case Studies & Protocols
Evan Brand, CFMP, FNTP is a Podcast Host, Certified Functional Medicine Practitioner and Nutritional Therapist. He is passionate about healing the chronic fatigue, obesity, and depression epidemics after solving his own IBS and depression issues. His Evan Brand Podcast has over 7 million downloads and counting.
Q: please repeat info on companies that have lymphatic support supplements.
A: Beyond balance and wish garden have lymph supports
Q: With the legalization of marijuana, I have not heard anyone discuss the mold in marijuana.
A: I have heard of moldy cannabis; you could grind it up and put it on a mold petri dish to test it
Q: How can you detect mold in coffee which is drank daily for thousands?
A: It’s a very common issue.
Q: Can you talk about how to detox children under five from mycotoxins?
A: Would prefer to discuss this on a consult, but in general, gentle binders like liquid chlorella, small doses of charcoal mixed with applesauce. Email me at office@evanbrand.com if you need more help.
Q: Do the mycotoxins cross into the eggs produced by exposed poultry?
A: Sounds reasonable to me.
Q: Which markers on the OAT are indicative of mold toxicity? And what levels are considered high?
A: Page one shows mold colonization but the MycoTOX Profile is what looks at actual toxin levels.
Q: Where would we find a source for nebulizable glutathione and a protocol?
A: Thernaturals carries the one for the nebulizer, we mix it with 2-3ml of saline and 1 cap glutathione and put into nebulizer to breathe it in
Q: Are you not concerned with using medicinal mushrooms with mold and fungal overgrowth?
A: No, I’ve never found it to be an issue, even with those that have histamine issues.
Q: What do you think about treating heavy metals with mold? Do you have an order of operations with that? And what about with EBV as well?
A: The binders are broad spectrum and we likely fix both at the same time.
Q: Is it harder to treat mold when eating high histamine foods?
A: Histamine issues due to mast cell activation and mold issues are common, lower histamine diets can be helpful to lower the work.
Q: Are you familiar with Beth O’Hara’s work with Mast Cell Activation Syndrome?
A: Yes, Beth is a very nice woman and has done a great job of educating the public about mast cell and histamine issues
Q: What sauna do you recommend? If you can’t afford a big one, what about the portable one. Is it effective?
A: I have the ClearLight, tell them Evan sent you for a discount. I don’t know much about portable ones but heard Therasage 360 is decent.
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Q: For high dose choline, have you seen blood sugar problems increase?
A: Never
Q: Do you use either phosphatidylserine or phosphatidylcholine or use both at same time?
A: I use both at the same time for different purposes.
Q: What herbs did you use to treat H. Pylori?
A: My microbiome support 1 formula on auraroots.com
Q: Have you had much success in treating mycoplasma infection and what did you use?
A: I have success with mycoplasma using astragalus and cats claw.
Q: How did you do the test for babies from a distance? What company are you using for lyme and co-infection testing?
A: DNA connexions urine test
Q: I have a patient on binders and he can’t live without them. Given binders inhibit absorption of everything, how long can I keep him on them?
A: Forever. Ask Dr. Neil Nathan
Q: Can you state again the company you use for the petri-dishes?
A: Immunolytics
Q: Thoughts on ERMI home testing?
A: It is ok. I like petri dishes better.
Q: Herbs can be very powerful, are you concerned about doing damage to the microbiome?
A: No
Q: What have you researched to be the best HVAC filtering? Do you recommend UV light in the HVAC system?
A: I recommend point of contact filters like Austin Air. UV is ok.
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Shanhong Lu
Glyphosate, Neuroinflammation Nation, & Parkinson’s Disease
Dr. Shanhong Lu, MD, PhD is a Internal Medicine Specialist in Mount Shasta, CA and has over 34 years of experience in the medical field. She graduated from Beijing Med University medical school in 1987.
Q: What are your best tools for detox of glyphosate?
A: Decrease exposure, Ultimate immune 8 a day, ultimate eaze 1-3 a day and OPC, with OR WITHOUT GLYCINE 4-5 GRAM TWICE A DAY- most of my 90 day data are based on 8 ultimate immune a day, please email drlu@drlumd.com for complimentary case discussions
Q: Does her approach / treatment help with epilepsy/seizure disorders patients?
A: Yes, please email drlu@drlumd.com for complimentary case discussions
Q: Cytokine storm Ebola virus works by this as probably SIDS from vaccine administration. No one has looked at routine vaccination but since vaccines with adjuvants produce a nonspecific immune provocation, wouldn’t that also be factor in Parkinson’s disease?
A: Vaccine injuries are not the cause of adult PDs because most of them have not received vaccines
Q: Even though organic foods are contaminated, do you recommend them as a better choice?
A: Absolutely
Q: Do you think an organic, plant based diet is safer overall than let’s say carnivore, with regard to levels of glyphosate?
A: I wish I could say that because I am a vegan and have been finding vegans are tested high in glyphosate (more often than meat eaters) but we have had less consequences … please email me drlu@drlumd.com since the keto people are more toxic with fat soluble toxins EDCs.
Q: Because glyphosate is a glycine mimic, would glycine supplementation help to detoxify by binding to its receptor and preventing glyphosate from binding? Do you prescribe supplemental Glycine to mitigate the effects of glyphosate exposure-injury?
A: In theory, but glycine alone will not be adequate
Q: What are your favorite tests to assess Toxic Burden?
A: The GPL-TOX Profile (Toxic Non-Metal Chemicals) and the Great Plains Laboratory Glyphosate Test.
Q: Would you name a few immune modulators please?
A: Muramyl peptide, beta glucans
Q: What lab/ tests do you use for total body burden & antioxidant SnPs? I use GPL and detox project and HRIlabs.org
A: GXsciences.com for SNPs and GPL-tox and GPL-glyphosate and oligoscan for tissue levels of minerals heavy metals and vitamins
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Q: Is L-glutamine a concern for Parkinson. I heard it may pass the blood brain barrier.
A: Do you mean glyphosate? Yes glyphosate accesses the brain via BBB also the vagal nerve from the gut enteric plexus.
Q: You said heavy metals take forever to detox. What about kiddos with mouths full of mercury amalgam fillings? Thoughts about considering that fact?
A: ClearDetox pro for life and remove amalgam fillings
Q: More specifically, how do you activate PON1 for detox of glyphosate?
A: Email me drlu@drlumd.com
Q: What are your favorite detox methods?
A: WFPB organic diet+ A systemic core detox system please email or text me at 530-925-0565 drlu@drlumd.com and we can email you a recorded webinar
Q: How do we join the group?
A: Email me drlu@drlumd.com
Q: Since glyphosate is pretty much everywhere, even if we eat organic and minimize environmental toxins… how else can we counteract the effects of it?
A: Email me drlu@drlumd.com
Q: I don’t see glycine for detoxing from glyphosate. Where is it?
A: Glycine can replace glyphosate in theory but most of our data comes from glucarate 3000 mg a day and leaky gut and stress prevention
Q: I was wondering if glyphosate is also found in organic pea protein isolate? You mentioned it is present in the organic pea protein.
A: YES and that is why I take a regimen daily to prevent accumulation- I call a cellular shower) please email me drlu@drlumd.com
Q: Is it best Ca-d-glucarate on an empty stomach. Any suggestion dose wise. Once daily BID etc mg. please and thank you
A: 3000 mg a day with or without food in my experience and make sure Glutathione deficiency is corrected and Th1 and Th2 immune system is balanced (often time during detox Th1 switches to Th2 – cytokine storm)
Dr. Shanhong Lu is looking for participants to join a national and international detox project by first making toxins visible and gather data in relationship to clinical illnesses. If interested, please contact her at drlu@drlumd.com
Suzanne Gazda
The Neurological Effects of Mold and a Look into Integrative Neurology
Dr. Suzanne Gazda, MD has uniquely combined a dedication to outstanding care with an authentic commitment to patients as people first. From this desire to find more ways to achieve wellness as a means of treating illness came Integrative Neurology, providing you with individualized solutions specific to your health.
Q: Do you incorporate Botanical anti-fungals in your protocols?
A: Yes, I love to use botanicals . But , like Dr Shaw, I believe in most patients, antifungal RX like Itraconazole is needed to fully remove fungal colonization but I can imagine that if we use antifungal botanicals (which can also boost immune health) .. long enough, patients can improve as well.
Q: What would be your sequence of evaluations for a child with ADHD and dysgraphia, tremors after testing w/ OAT, and MOAT?
A: The same as an AE patient : MRI, NQ , Lab, Cunningham panel and in some w/u for mold and lyme and heavy metals etc.
Q: Any good practical resources how to fight the mold? EMF exposure?
A: I will defer to Dr. Shaw on this one.
Q: I am a mother with five sons 2 of which have been diagnosed with Pans/pandas. One of those two have Lyme. According to labs, we have high levels of strep in the gut, how would you suggest to break the cycle?
A: This is such a complicated question. You are welcomed to email me so we can set up a time to speak about your sons.
Q: Small amount of Chitinase is endogenous to humans no ? Chitinase in CSF would mean the body is trying to break down fungi no?
A:I believe so in a certain subset of patients , especially those that we worry have mold exposure.
Q: Which lake in Shasta is high in aluminum?
A: HERE
Q: I see a lot of recommendation for chlorophyll and spirulina but I think there would be a potential risk of BMAA exposure by ingesting these?
A: Yes, I agree depending on the source.
Q: I am a physician in OK. How do i order the Cunningham and neuroquant tests?
A: You can ask Moleculera labs to send you some kits and for the NQ…go to the Core Techs website and send info and ask for a center near you that does NQ HERE.
Q: Do you get concerned with use of D-ribose and increased acetylated glycolic endpoints?
A: This is a question I will defer to Dr Shaw . Take good care!!
Q: More on the NeuroQuant please?
A: I am soon going to have a blog on my website about the NQ …. Check back within a couple of weeks. But, I already have quite a bit of info HERE.
Q: Is the neuroquant and MRI that needs to be ordered by a physician?
A: Since in most cases they are private pay (about 300 dollars ) I suspect anyone could order / not sure.
Q: are you working with MS patients doing plasmalogen replacement?
A: I am excited to explore more and am doing that now. In my experience, so much of what we would like to do in FM…well, the patients just can’t afford to do it all. I hope that changes one day.
Q: which is Dr. Dan Goodenowe's plasmalogen replacement work?
A: The data is strong. Check back with me in a few months after I have had a few patients try this.